'New Yorker' Makes Adelson Out to Be Nutjob Likudnik-- and Fails to Describe His Broad Following in the Jewish Establishment

I've finally read Connie Bruck's profile of the self-proclaimed richest Jew in the world, Sheldon Adelson, in The New Yorker and I'm a little dismayed. I think it's great the magazine ran the story, and great that it spoke so openly of Adelson's efforts to shape Israel policy here and in Jerusalem, ideas heretofore suppressed in the U.S. press, great too that Bruck did a ton of reporting on Adelson's dance moves. But still, I'm left a little lukewarm.

The problem with the piece is that it lacks any real social and political context. Adelson is presented as a "crazy Jewish billionaire," as George W. Bush reportedly described him, a complete outlier. A nutjob with yes, real influence, but an independent wildman. There's no sense of Adelson's political context, and his broad support within the American Jewish community. For instance, Adelson has worked closely with Freedom's Watch and AIPAC, but there is little effort to talk about Freedom's Watch's importance to the Republican Party. Briefly, Bruck picks up the idea that Adelson may be the rightwing answer to George Soros. Then she drops it. Where are Matt Brooks and Ari Fleischer, important figures in the Republican establishment who have worked with Adelson? Where is Charles Bronfman of birthright, which Adelson has funded? Where are Mel Sembler and Richard Fox, fellow Republican travelers to Adelson, beloved friends of neocons in high places? The brilliant Michael Steinhardt is quoted, with a smart quote, but there is no effort to put Adelson's publishing efforts in the context of Steinhardt's at the Sun, or Hertog's at the New Republic, or any of the rest of the ardent pro-Israel establishment's. Oh, Adelson is a crazy man. Well what about Hertog and Steinhardt? And what does it mean that Haim Saban, an ardent Zionist, and Martin Indyk have associations with Adelson? It means that he is part of a continuum of Zionist belief in the Establishment.

Late in the piece Bruck says by way of parenthetical disclosure that she is married to Mel Levine, the former California congressman now serving in Obama's Middle East braintrust. Well Levine is a former board member of AIPAC, according to Janet McMahon of WRMEA. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying that Zionism is so deeply imbedded in American Jewish life that it is almost impossible to look to the turrets of the Jewish cultural establishment for detached examination of what Zionism is doing to our politics. Bruck makes hay of the fact that Adelson is trying to nullify the Annapolis peace process and is a big backer of One Jerusalem. I share her p-o-v on this. But she fails to say that a former Under Secretary of Defense, Doug Feith, was a founder of One Jerusalem-- let alone raise the possibility that Feith and other neocons got their jobs in the Bush Administration because of the largesse of Adelson et al. Isn't that how it works? Bruck owes us more here.

Yes, I agree, Netanyahu is a bad guy. But he has adherents all over the American Enterprise Institute. Adelson is not an outlier on Jerusalem. 58 percent of American Jews are for an undivided Jerusalem and Bruck's husband's man (and mine), Obama, called for an undivided Jerusalem in his speech to AIPAC, to curry favor with powerful Jews. Adelson's rightwing views are widely shared in the American Jewish community, especially the older members, and in the political establishment. His support for neocons has surely helped to destroy the American image in the Middle East. Bruck doesn't go near any of this. Oh well. I'm still grateful.

Comments

[MRW.]

Why aren't you writing this article? You need to spend time in Vegas to do it, too. There is lots to discover there. But you'll have a hard time getting near to Adelson with his eight ex-Mossad bodyguards. You'll need to spend time in the NW (Summerlin) synagogues to crack this nut. Why dont you ask American Conservative if they'll give you this assignment?

[Richard Witty]

Bronfman is liberal, and likely NOT associated with Adelson except on general support of Israeli community.

"And what does it mean that Haim Saban, an ardent Zionist, and Martin Indyk have associations with Adelson?"

He most likely IS part of the continuum of establishment. He probably donates to Hadassah Hospital, to the Hebrew University, to Birthright as you said (I differ with you as to the xenophobic character of it).

"58 percent of American Jews are for an undivided Jerusalem"

I'm actually surprised that the number is that low. I am for an undivided Jerusalem if it is possible without oppressing.

Given a setting of CLEAR choice, CONFIDENT peace or all of annexed Jerusalem, I expect that the numbers would shift.

The problem though has been that there has NOT been confident peace offered. If Hamas succeeds in convincing the cadre to restrain from shelling, then maybe there is the prospect of it, someone to negotiate with.

In some ways the left goes into a restaurant and insists on being served an item that is not on the menu.

Better to ACTUALLY construct options, than demand options, or to compulse.

[Richard Witty]

Bronfman is liberal, and likely NOT associated with Adelson except on general support of Israeli community.

"And what does it mean that Haim Saban, an ardent Zionist, and Martin Indyk have associations with Adelson?"

He most likely IS part of the continuum of establishment. He probably donates to Hadassah Hospital, to the Hebrew University, to Birthright as you said (I differ with you as to the xenophobic character of it).

"58 percent of American Jews are for an undivided Jerusalem"

I'm actually surprised that the number is that low. I am for an undivided Jerusalem if it is possible without oppressing.

Given a setting of CLEAR choice, CONFIDENT peace or all of annexed Jerusalem, I expect that the numbers would shift.

The problem though has been that there has NOT been confident peace offered. If Hamas succeeds in convincing the cadre to restrain from shelling, then maybe there is the prospect of it, someone to negotiate with.

In some ways the left goes into a restaurant and insists on being served an item that is not on the menu.

Better to ACTUALLY construct options, than demand options, or to compulse.

[otto]

Israel's behaviour towards the Palestinian arabs is so bigoted that it's not possible to be a 'liberal Zionist'. If you're a Zionist, you're not liberal, and that why open nutjobs move to easily among the wider crowd.

[Richard Witty]

Sorry Otto. You're just wrong.

There are more liberal Zionists than conservative, both in Israel and in the US.

But like the economy, numbers and need don't count so much, except numbers of dollars.

Zionism is a good in the world, in that it represents a LARGE qualitative shift among the Jewish people (both in Europe and in the US) from victim to assertion.

It remains part of the narrative because of the importance of the change in consciousness.

And, it takes subsequent generations to get to kind Zionist, which is being worked on.

One approach is to suicide the association of being Jewish, or if an Israeli citizen, of being Israeli.

Those that suicide their identity in some way, disappear.

The best that can happen is transformation of one's behavior, not dissolution, not denial of one's identity, not resentment.

Staying IN the game, and changing it.

[otto]

"Zionism is a good in the world, in that it represents a LARGE qualitative shift among the Jewish people (both in Europe and in the US) from victim to assertion."

We need assertion without hatred of arabs, and that's what neither Israel nor Zionists seem capable of managing. Since hatred of arabs is so intrinsic to Israel, it cannot be liberal.

[peters]

i couldn't force myself to read the article because i knew it would be bullshit in one way or another. the new yorker is so compromised by this toxic zionist infection. why is anyone disappointed?

i was trying to explain this infection to a friend, obamamaniac, who did not want to hear it. she has degrees from stanford and harvard if that means anything. i asked her why not, since she is interested in politics. she said it was like poverty. no one wants to talk of poverty either. it is too global, too overwhelming.
would someone give me a response to this comment of a smart person? is it an excuse? is it true? it's just too overwhelming and we are powerless so why even know about it?

[Ed]

Otto: "If you're a Zionist, you're not liberal"

Witty: "Sorry Otto. You're just wrong. There are more liberal Zionists than conservative both in Israel and in the US."

Otto is exactly right. Zionism is hard core Jewish nationalism. Saying one can simultaneously be a liberal and a hard core ethnic nationalist is a contradiction in terms. Jews are only able to get away with this because they have predominated on the left and in the left liberal establishment for so long. They paper over the rank hypocrisy with semantics by simply calling hard core Jewish nationalism Zionism instead of what it really is, and most on the left pretend not to notice, just as they pretend not to notice what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. All of this is consistent with Jewish Zionism's supremacist attitudes, which can be summarized as: we don't have to practice what we preach, because we are Jews. That the left tolerates this also goes to its own moral and ideological corruption.

[Jim Haygood]

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Between Connie Bruck's piece on Adelson, and Sy Hersh's exposition of the escalating covert war on Iran, the New Yorker is blowing away the Sulzbuggers' Old Grey Meretrix of Eighth Avenue.

One hopes the taggers don't embellish the shiny new skyscraper with "Blow Job 50 Dollah." Of course, if Maureen the Red-Haired Minx is the provider, I might be in the market myself on my way to the bus station.

[samuel burke]

jstreet gets a special mention on this youtube on early morning cnbc, aipac gets a couple of dishonorable mentions to boot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlFO-7vfhJc

[Charles Keating]

"I'm actually surprised that the number is that low. I am for an undivided Jerusalem if it is possible without oppressing."

This sounds like Eva Braun in the fateful hours before WW2. Hitler had convinced her Poland wanted war, not neogitation.

[Charles Keating]

Oops: negotiation

[Chuck]

Liberal Zionist=Complete hypocrite.

[stevieb]

Mr.Witty demonstrates once again why there is no future for zionism.

Or for Israel as a jewish state.

[ewes]

Anyone who ever thinks about criticizing publicly a $26 billion man who made his fortune in an unsavory business and who has unlimited access to cold hard cash, like Sheldon Adelson, probably thinks twice.

[Wassermann]

Adelson's 'hard-earned wealth' is currently falling off a cliff as the American economy goes in to a tailspin and far fewer people frequent his Las Vegas casinos and hotels.

Take heed: in a few years he'll be worth half or even less of what he's worth now.

[americangoy]

Sorry...

"Zionism is a good in the world, in that it represents a LARGE qualitative shift among the Jewish people (both in Europe and in the US) from victim to assertion."

Should read

Zionism is a good in the world, in that it represents a LARGE qualitative shift among the Jewish people (both in Europe and in the US) from victim to OPPRESSOR.

Just like kids who are bullied at home become bullies at school to other kids.

Same mentality, larger scale.

[Glenn Condell]

'Adelson is presented as a "crazy Jewish billionaire," as George W. Bush reportedly described him, a complete outlier.'

Far easier to cut him loose if he's portrayed as an outlier. His overweening arrogance and pigheadedness was AOK when the spotlight wasn't on the Lobby, but now, like Leviev, he's a dead albatross weight on the slow boat to Zion, so he's elbowed aside as an extremist clown. Or appears to be.

Instructive to see that Haim Saban (Lobby; Democrat division) is part of the effort. He too is a 'one issue guy' but generally keeps his mouth shut, or at least has the ability to hide his extremism under a plausible cloak of platitudes and evasions. He's almost as destructive as Adelson, but in the article you get no sense that he too might (with good reason) be considered a 'crazy Jewish billionaire' Indeed, he looks like he's auditioning for the role of 'sober, responsible Jewish billionaire'.

It wouldn't surprise me if Adelson himself was on-side with this. Paints himself in gaudy colours to pull attention away from the grey-suited smoothies still pointing America toward the enemies of Zion. 'I'll take heat for the cause; I'm tough enough, and it will give the rest of you some room to move'.

It's not impossible, and nothing surprises anymore.

So Bruck's husband is ex-AIPAC. IS she Jewish too? When will goys be allowed to write about this?

It's got holes you could drive a truck thru, but it's better than nothing. Baby steps...

[Richard Witty]

If you guys represent the prospect of social transformation then we are woefully lost at sea.

[Charles Keating]

I wonder if, in say five or six years from now, we might not have a series of pogroms against "American" Jews. If that happens, and I'm not saying it should, will anyone in the world have any sympathy left for Jews?

[Jim Haygood]

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Charles, I sure hope not. But if one wanted to engineer a pogrom, one could hardly do better than this:

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Senior Pentagon officials are concerned that Israel could carry out an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities before the end of the year, an action that would have enormous security and economic repercussions for the United States and the rest of the world.

A senior defense official told ABC News there is an "increasing likelihood" that Israel will carry out such an attack, a move that likely would prompt Iranian retaliation against, not just Israel, but against the United States as well.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/US/Story?id=5281043&page=1

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As a quite direct result of this sponsored MSM cage-rattling (note the anonymity of the "senior defense official"), crude oil popped to near a record high, as house prices and equities prices continue crumbling. An actual Israeli attack could push U.S. energy prices to unthinkable levels, while getting more U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Americans -- with the complicity of their own officials -- are being raped economically on behalf of Israel, which gets free rein to pursue its "insane badger" policy of constantly threatening its neighbors with attack. Expansionist zionism with a vengeance, as it were.

When is some populist politician going to draw the explicit connection? Supporting Israel isn't merely not in our best interests ... it's IMPOVERISHING America. If Israel really does pull the trigger (and the drumbeat is getting louder and louder), the finger of blame is going to be pointed squarely at Israel, AIPAC, and their collaboratist dual-loyalty U.S. politicians.

Scapegoats? Not at all ... they stuck out their chins and ASKED FOR IT.

[paul malfara]

Well Richard Witty,

You and the rest of the Zionist mess, and it's getting to the point where there is no need to draw a distinction between the land-grabbers and the so-called "progressive" Zionists, had your chance at social transformation, and the result is FUBAR.
So we can't be more lost at sea than we are under the "meritocritous elite" that we see misleading America at present.

And Charles, if the series of pogroms that you envision ever comes about, it will be misdirected, and the actual architects of the mess that we're in now will be safe and sound with padded bank accounts in Israel or other friendly countries. The pogroms will be carried out against innocents.

And Jim, if they ever succeed in executing the Bruce Lee one-inch fatal punch to the chins of AIPAC and all its "collaboratist dual-loyalty US politicians", there will be no remaining senators, and the House will have two sitting reps: Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinic. Come to think of it, that's a rather attractive prospect!!! Let's grow us a new crop of politicians for the future of America...while there's still time.

PM

[Todd]

"If Israel really does pull the trigger (and the drumbeat is getting louder and louder), the finger of blame is going to be pointed squarely at Israel, AIPAC, and their collaboratist dual-loyalty U.S. politicians.

Scapegoats? Not at all ... they stuck out their chins and ASKED FOR IT."

I would imagine that the same populist politician would point out that using the U.S. to serve Jewish and Israeli interests at the expense of traditional America is NOT a dual loyalty, but a loyalty to Jewish and Israeli interests alone.

I believe that REAL punishment is deserved, but the usual suspects will likely not see it coming, and will still be be rattling on about their self-serving civil rights and social record, while playing games on the issue of Palestine when the mob comes for them.

[Todd]

Paul,

I agree with most of what you wrote, but I don't think that there are too many true innocents among the zionist crowd. The big fish may get away, but they have had plenty of support from below.

Maybe the U.S. will wise up and attack Israel one day. Would such an attack even be considered pre-emptive?

[Richard Witty]

Are you guys for real?

The truth comes out.

"They asked for it" in chorus.

[Todd]

C'mon, Richard, you can't logically defend zionism and what it has dragged the U.S. through. There is no moral grounding to zionism or Israel's existence, other than what is good for Jews.

Well, it appears that what is good for Jews and Israel is awful for much of the world. Where is that sense of Jewish justice that I've been hering about my whole life?

[Laurie]

Todd, you've heard about Santa Claus your whole life as well.

[Richard Witty]

Zionism is a great good in the world, as is the case with every national assertion among those for whom their distinct community is important.

Its even more of a great good because of its enormous accomplishments in building a thriving state that affords more significant minority rights than any other in the region.

It definitely needs reform. But, any conclusion that Israel is net negative for the US or for the world as a whole is either uninformed or quite prejudiced.

In my opinion, its not the best that it can be (while still being Israel), and MAYBE (quite remotely given the evidence of very strong residual anti-semitism even in "enlightened" US) there is a better form.

Maybe Avraham Burg has it right. Maybe Ali Abunimah has it right. Maybe there is a possible transition to a democratic state that is more secure than even the US.

"They (Jews) had it coming" is NOT IT.

Thats old con.

[paul malfara]

Richard,

Be careful about pointing your "They had it coming" canard at all with whom you disagree. If you look at the some of the posts carefully, you'll see that "they had it coming" is NOT the message. The message, from my post anyway, is that those who end up on the receiving end of "it" are NOT those who really "had it coming". Those that DO "have it coming" usually get away. Even Todd doesn't paint American Jewry as those "having it coming"; his focus is on Zionists. I disagree with him, and I feel that pissant armchair Zionists like you don't "have it coming". You'll disappear into the cracks like a cockroach. I don't think that Jews as an ethnic group "have it coming". I agree with Martillo that there is a small group of hyper-wealthy Jews who use their resources to influence American policy, both foreign and domestic, to fit their agenda, one which is for the most part a single-issue one.

Your endless rant about "Zionism is a good for the world..." has been going on for so long now that the odor is more than unpleasant. It's not a "national assertion" of a "distinct community." It's a land grab by a group of ethnic supremicists. The world has moved on. We're not interested in supporting this type of nation.

PM

[paul malfara]

Richard,

Maybe you should think about becoming an advertising exec for the Zionists...

"In my opinion, its not the best that it can be (while still being Israel), and MAYBE (quite remotely given the evidence of very strong residual anti-semitism even in "enlightened" US) there is a better form."

You could turn parts of the previous paragraph into a US Army type ad - you remember the one. "Be all that you can be.
Find your future, in the Army". Wait, Maybe Sheldon Adelson will adopt it for his Birthright Program. Pan to Richard Witty's son, resplendent in his IOF uniform, climbing the Apartheid Wall with his gun. Upon reaching the top, he shoots at a group of protesters on the other side. Zoom in, and a smiling face says "Last year I was just another young American Jew, searching for my identity. Now, look at me. I'm being the best that I can be." Music and lyrics. "Be the best that you can be...(backing vocals) while still being Israel... Find your future, here in Zi-i-i-on."

PM

[Bantam]

After W.W.II one group has been branded guilty of killing a handful of Jews,the Nazis.

In the following decades the guilt has been extended to all Germans,then the Europeans,followed by the Muslims and recently the ... Americans.

(Jewish organizations find it appropriate to sue the US of A for failing to bomb the prisoners camps,hoping to shake-off American taxpayers a mere $20 Billion.)

Now what group has created this liberally applied collective guilt,what group has shoved down our throats that notion that "doing nothing" or "keeping silent" were strictly equivalent to being "willing executioners"?

This group might have to taste its own medicine.

This is not a prediction,it seems like an evidence to anyone endowed with a 2-digit IQ.

[Laurie]

Unlike you PM, I do believe that American Jews and to a less extent Christian Zionist 'have it coming' IF they continue to support the Zionist agenda. Most Jews are intelligent enough people (I can't say the same of those Christians) to see the racist elitism at the foundation of Zionism. To continue to support Zionism is to willingly ignore reality. I do agree with you that Jews are being used but they also are allowing themselves to be. Richard can not claim he didn't know.

By 'have it coming' I mean scorn, but NO physical violence.

[Crimson Ghost]

Adelson is still a very rich man, but his net worth almost certainly is much less than it was a year ago. The gambling industry in general and Las Vegas in paricular have been hit hard by the ongoing recession and real estate bust.

Something FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG with a society where a war mongering Zionist gambling mogul can become one of the richest and most poweful people in the nation.

[paul malfara]

Laurie,

If you look at earlier posts on this thread, you'll see that Charles raised the issue of a possible "series of pograms" against "'American' Jews". His quotation marks around "American" here must denote the fact that he sees the loyalty of many of these Jews lying not with America but with Israel but that's besides the point. In my book, a pogrom is a violent event. I couldn't condone any pogrom against American Jews, or American anything for that matter. If some of these people have broken laws, they must be held accountable. Do I believe that they have broken laws? Yes, some of them have, and they should be tried. Those that willfully coopted and distorted American foreign policy for the benefit of a foreign nation, indifferent to the consequences to the United States, should be brought to justice.

What about the bulk of American Jews and the Christian Zionists? Yes, I agree that many continue to support the Zionist agenda and that they should see Zionism as racial/ethnic elitism, but I don't see that they have broken laws and need to be brought to justice.

They already have my scorn, but scorn ain't worth spit!!!!

"Could I have a side order of scorn with my disgust and derision, Madge?"

"Sure thing, hon, comin' right up."

PM

[Richard Witty]

You guys are poster children for the adl.

[Richard Witty]

Take it seriously. You give the most repellent Zionists backbone and fuel.

I guess their "more honest" than us genuinely liberal ones.

[paul malfara]

Richard,

There is no need to bring hate groups into this discussion.

PM

[hlmeanin]

After reading the article, I agree that it is positive that it was published in a mag with the rep of the New Yorker. Hopefully discussing Jewish Power will be easier now.
I got the impression the piece was an attempt to set Adelson up as the reason for Israel's intransigence. Bush,the Liberals, the CIA, and even AIPAC want a 2 state solution but not Sheldon.Sheldon is presented as being even crazier than Bush.
I won't go into an analysis of the 2 or 1 state solution issue, but it does appear to be a struggle within the zionist and overall ruling class, with Adelson opposing efforts at "compromise" to get the 2 state solution done..
There also seems to be a class factor at work, with Adelson being the enemy of unions..
which he probably is....

[Matter]

Zionism is to Judaism as al-Qaeda is to Islam.

Zionism is the Jewish version of the KKK. And the Zionists in Palestine have done things that the KKK can only dream of.

[MM]

The world has moved on. We're not interested in supporting this type of nation.

I see, paul.

But have you considered merely becoming an Yankee Friend of Zion?

YFZ's need not even support The Dream with an actual donation. As a U.S. citizen residing outside of a prizon, you are entitled to subprime, 0-down, no-guilt financing on a completely flexible pay schedule. That's right paul, you can buy into the Ziomerican Dream on nothing but pure credit!

But don't take my word for it--ask your 300 million neighbors how THEY'RE doing!

Just complete all your tax forms on time, and in November, vote democrat or republican.

Of course, by choosing to make a TAX-DEDUCTABLE cash donation, you are giving light and hope to millions.

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Thanks _paul mafara_ And have an inspired day!

MM
YFZ Sales Rep & Corporate Finance Coordinator
12 Prosperity Lane | Everytown USA
(502) TAX-FREE

[MRW.]

Jim Haygood @6:24 AM

Part II of that article you cited is here, and well worth reading:
"Israel May Attack Iran, Pentagon Official Tells ABC (Update2)"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axXSaQ0Wfxm8&refer=home

I dont hope for "pogroms against "American" Jews," as Charles Keating queried. But if the USA is dragged into war with Iran, you can count on it. And having 200-250 million people vilify you is not going to be pretty, nor will anyone be able to stop it, not when you can't afford to drive to work or feed your family.

It WILL be a horror story, and it WILL be over-the-top emotional and out of control. And people who do not deserve to be blamed will suffer the brunt of it. But as a famous Jewish friend of mine in Manhattan told me 20 years ago, "The history of Jews is 2,000 years of self-fulfilling prophecy." That's why I appreciate so much what Phil Weiss is doing with this blog: attempting to get the dialogue going that can help avert this catastrophe.

Someone above cited this youtube of Morning Joe. Well worth watching.
"Morning Joe: Katrina vanden Heuvel on the Sy Hersh Leak"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlFO-7vfhJc

[Matter]

How sad that you censor comments you don't like.

Did it strike too close to home to compare Zionism to the KKK? Let's face it, the Zionist doctrine of Jewish Supremacism in Israel is supported by numerous laws that make Jim Crow look weak. Zionism does to the Palestinians things the KKK can only dream of.

[Todd]

"Zionism is a great good in the world, as is the case with every national assertion among those for whom their distinct community is important...."

I hardly call that a logical defense of the morality of zionism and the founding of Israel. The net good is far outweighed by the harm done, unless you are a zionist.

[paul malfara]

Dear MM
YFZ Sales Rep & Corporate Finance Coordinator
12 Prosperity Lane | Everytown USA
(502) TAX-FREE

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PM

[Charles Keating]

Witty, you need to read what was written in this thread before you jumped on it again. It's not a case of "They asked for it" but
a case of certain Jews (and Evangelical Christian Zionists, and Oil guys like Chaney), asked for it--but as historically usual, they won't pay, innocent humans will pay, both Jew and Gentile. So, what's new? (BTW, innocent goys & their familys back home are paying now, serving in the US Army and Marines in the Middle East).

[Glenn Condell]

'And people who do not deserve to be blamed will suffer the brunt of it.'

Like the vast majority of people the US has shocked and awed over the last 7 years, and the bulk of those the Israelis have brutalised since 1948. Like the vast majority of victims of violence everywhere in every era. Once you open the gates to it, you can't control it.

'But as a famous Jewish friend of mine in Manhattan told me 20 years ago, "The history of Jews is 2,000 years of self-fulfilling prophecy." That's why I appreciate so much what Phil Weiss is doing with this blog: attempting to get the dialogue going that can help avert this catastrophe.'

Amen to that.

[Glenn Condell]

'And people who do not deserve to be blamed will suffer the brunt of it.'

Like the vast majority of people the US has shocked and awed over the last 7 years, and the bulk of those the Israelis have brutalised since 1948. Like the vast majority of victims of violence everywhere in every era. Once you open the gates to it, you can't control it.

'But as a famous Jewish friend of mine in Manhattan told me 20 years ago, "The history of Jews is 2,000 years of self-fulfilling prophecy." That's why I appreciate so much what Phil Weiss is doing with this blog: attempting to get the dialogue going that can help avert this catastrophe.'

Amen to that.