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June 27, 2008

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"When will America allow this type of expression?" When non Jews get sick and tired of hearing the truth described as 'antisemitic'. It blows my mind how Jews congratulate themselves on discovering/revealing the truth about Israel when the rest of the world knew from Israel's conception that it was a state built on a racist (for jews only) foundation.

Jimmy Carter?

Schocken is a humanist, a Zionist, but advocating for reform.

Applying his native human and Jewish sensivity of justice and compassion.

What distinguishes a "human" "senstivity of justice and compassion" from a "Jewish sensitivity of justice and compassion"?

(I hate identity politics)

"What distinguishes a "human" "senstivity of justice and compassion" from a "Jewish sensitivity of justice and compassion"?"

Harvard Yiddish scholar and Lieberman-in-Law, Ruth Wisse, says we should look at IQ differentials for the answer.

"Harvard Yiddish scholar and Lieberman-in-Law, Ruth Wisse, says we should look at IQ differentials for the answer."

You know, that's a good point.

Can we really trust the goyim to run this zionist interventionist military empire?

Witty's 'native human and Jewish sensivity of justice and compassion' has, root and branch, been vitiated by the conception, the construction, the perpetuation and the virulent defense of the state of Israel.
Witty's phrase is now an oxymoron.
Meanwhile, Schocken's decision to sign his editorial is a revolutionary act that should be replicated across the print media.

Native human compassion the oxymoron or native Jewish compassion?

Better that we walked to the gas chambers without fighting?

Clearly 'native Jewish compassion'.
And what does the holocaust have to do with Israel's intrinsic criminality?
Ironies here. Israel (and much of world Jewry) incredulous that the Palestinians do not themselves agree to walk to their equivalent of the gas chambers without fighting.

ted koppel calling zionism an apartheid state way back in 75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLgk5tpoSc

"Native human compassion the oxymoron or native Jewish compassion?

Better that we walked to the gas chambers without fighting?"

Witty: Thank you for this revealing comment.
It is unfortunate but true: this image of "walking to the gas chambers" exerts a powerful 'pull' on Jewish sensibility. Like a giant unseen gravity magnet that throws off what should be a simple perception of reality, the memory of the holocaust (and before that the pogroms) continues to affect the moral calculus of Jews today.

Jews are so proud of remembering and celebrating their history, without realizing that this is precisely the mechanism which perpetuates their searing memories. And these memories can damage one's moral clarity. “What is one hungry Palestinian life compared to six million dead” is one powerful example. Alan Dershowitz et al justifications of torture are another example.

Witty, your assertion that Israel has a right to pre-emptive war is another example. If Jews have a right to pre-emptive attack, then so do everyone else, ie, complete breakdown of international system of law.

"If Jews have a right to pre-emptive attack, then so do everyone else, ie, complete breakdown of international system of law."

Jews, not Israel?

Individuals and states do have a "right" to pre-emptive attack IF they are in immanent danger, and the preemption will deter or remove that danger, and only in a manner that will cost minimum harm.

The same logic applies to all action, not only in arms, but also in words.

And that is NOT a slippery slope so long as the whole equation is applied.

The slippery slope occurs among those that are too lazy to bother to distinguish between conditions, choices of actions, effects on others.

Witty, Hitler would agree with you.
I never thought he was insane.

Just narrow, like you. Your kid join the US Army yet? The IDF?

witty, then you accept the premise that ww2 jewish holocaust is your moral baseline. and continue to force other people to pay historical debts which they had no part in creating.
[better hope that the outside society that outnumbers you 1000 to 1 doesn't adopt your moral blindness and blame the jews for stuff that also happened in the mysts of history.]

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